Debate Club Round 2: Risk, Rationality, and Efficiency

Welcome Back Debate Fans!

Are you ready for Grumpus to grumble about the concept of investing the Emergency Fund (EF) in equities?

Or should I say “GGGGGRRRRUUUUMMMMBBBLLLLEEE” in my best sport’s announcer’s voice?

A Quick Recap

I’m back with another round of Debate Club. I hope everyone enjoyed round one. Just to re-cap, ChooseFI episode 66 prompted this series of articles in response to the idea of investing an EF. In episode 66, and the follow-up episode 66R, Brad and Jonathan (the hosts) enthusiastically endorsed Big Ern’s (the guest’s) idea that the traditional EF, invested in some sort of cash or cash-equivalent account, was a bad move. Instead, all three agreed it made more sense that a person invest their EF in equities.

In response, I argued in my first article of this series that Episode 66 lacked nuance and suffered from a mistaken definition of the EF. In other words, Ern, Jonathan, and Brad set up a strawman argument and easily knocked it down. By the end of the first article, I created what I felt was a level playing field on which to engage in a debate about the merits and drawbacks of their argument. Thus, I moved on to the second article. Continue reading

The Golden Albatross vs. The Insurance Industry (Part 1): Fees

What’s Your Opinion on Insurance Products?

Let me level with you up front: I don’t have a lot of experience with insurance products — especially the type that mirror investments. Prior to my experience related in the below story; the only other time I dealt with insurance investments was successfully extracting Mrs. Grumpus from one of the two products she invested in as a young worker in her home country. Up to now, I really hadn’t given them a lot of thought. As a result, I never held strong opinions about them in either direction. Maybe the most I ever felt was lucky for not getting involved with them — which I suppose is better than the regret I routinely express from other investment choices!

Of course, I’m not completely unaware of the arguments for and against such products. I hear them routinely denounced on several podcasts I listen to. Jill Schlesinger from “Jill on Money” is probably the most vocal, but certainly not the only one. The costs associated with such insurance “investment” products are often what draws the most negativity. Insurance sales people who push insurance products as a panacea to all money problems, is another issue that stirs emotion the wrong way.

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